Once bitter rivals, MMA pioneers Tito Ortiz and Ken Shamrock joined forces Thursday, appearing on "Off The Record" (OTR) with Michael Landsberg in a no holds barred interview. Hardcore MMA fans will remember these two for their epic trilogy that occurred between 2002 and 2006. Their fights were often credited for the UFCs early mainstream success. During the interview, discussion included fighter salaries and criticisms of UFC President Dana Whites compensation towards UFC fighters. "Dana White is an excellent promoter - He goes out and promotes the sport for what it is. But hes not the one getting in the cage, thats entertaining the fans who are watching and buying the pay-per views." said Ortiz via satellite. "(These) fighters are the ones who are stepping in and putting our lives on the line and (providing) entertainment for fans to watch the fights." The former UFC 205lb title holder, who is now signed with the Bellator Fighting Championships, also claims it was him and Shamrock who were responsible for where the promotion is today, not the UFC President. "(Myself) and Ken were probably the ones who sold the biggest pay-per- view fights to date." The 49-year old Shamrock shares the same sentiment and believes it was the fighters who aided in the UFCs success. "If Dana White didnt have you (Tito Ortiz), Chuck (Liddell), me or Frank (Shamrock) - for him to be able to make the money off our back, our sweat, our blood. Where would he be?" said Shamrock. He added "Without the charisma and talent that we (displayed at that time). Dana wouldnt have a job right now. " For the former Ultimate Fighter coach Shamrock has also been battling outside the cage, owing $175,000 to the UFC stemming from a three-year court order. While he couldnt get into specifics, Shamrock believes it should be the other way around. "Its kind of funny when people talk about owing. When you look at how much money was made in the UFC when I was there and the buy rates that were being brought in." "When I came in, I told (Dana White) that I promise you that these (pay-per-view) buy rates will jump over 100,000 (purchases). He didnt believe me. Then lied to me about what the buy rates were because he didnt want to pay me what I was supposed to get." "If anybody owes money, (Dana White) owes the fighters money," Shamrock added. When asked if Ortiz had been reasonably compensated throughout his career, "The Huntington Beach Bad Boy" shook his head. "Reasonably? Not Reasonably. Im well off for the surgeries that Ive had. And the things I got to look forward to when Im fifty, sixty years old, no" One topic brought up was the sport of boxing and how these athletes make far more money than MMA fighters. Ortiz believes UFC fighter salaries should be on par with boxers "I look at a guy like Floyd Mayweather who makes 42 million dollars for a pay-per-view. What am I doing different that this guy is doing? Im not just sparring, Im going there trying to hurt a guy. "I think youre forgetting were the fighters, were putting on the show," Ortiz added. On November 2nd Ortiz makes his Bellator debut in the main event on the promotions first ever pay-per-view. This has warranted criticisms from fans as the 38-year old has gone 1-6 in his last seven fights. But the father of three defends those claims, citing that half of his losses in particular to Forrest Griffin, Matt Hamill and Lyoto Machida all went to the judges scorecards "Ive always fought the top guys in the world. Ive got split decisions, decisions," said Ortiz When asked if he is ready for the fight, Ortiz responded "My minds straight, my bodys straight" Shamrock added that he will be tuning in as well. "Im going to watch it. I think if you dont buy it youre going to miss a really great fight." Tune into Ortiz taking on former UFC light heavyweight champion Quinton "Rampage" Jackson Saturday November 2nd at the Convention and Entertainment Center in Long Beach, California for Bellator 106. Jabari Parker Jersey . Top-ranked Rafael Nadal was also taken to three sets but emerged with a 6-3, 6-7 (3), 6-3 win over Tobias Kamke of Germany, while second-seeded David Ferrer joined Murray in making an early exit after a 6-4, 7-5 loss to Daniel Brands of Germany. Denzel Valentine Jersey . -- The Sacramento Kings have claimed forward Travis Outlaw off waivers under the NBAs new amnesty provision, filling out the frontcourt with another veteran. http://www.officialbullsfanstore.com/kid...n-bulls-jersey/. - The Baltimore Ravens have hired Steve Spagnuolo to be their secondary coach and assistant head coach. Lauri Markkanen Jersey . The move is retroactive to Aug. 1. Hosmer was originally hit on the hand in the first inning of a July 20 loss to Boston. He has played most of the time since, but missed a few contests due to the injury, then departed Thursdays win over the Twins and had tests that revealed the fracture. Chandler Hutchison Jersey . The former Edmonton Oilers defenceman was with the St. Louis Blues in training camp on a professional tryout. Whitney, 30, had four goals and 13 points in 34 games with the Oilers last season.In his weekly column, Sky Sports Spanish football expert Guillem Balague reflects on another below-par Real Madrid performance as well as answering your questions on the futures of Isco, Zinedine Zidane and Aitor Karanka... Real Madrid are a team lacking ideas; they just look like an old team. Youve only got to look at Borussia Dortmund and Bayern Munichs performances this week to see the difference.Barcelona, Atletico Madrid, and even clubs like Villarreal and Sevilla, have a clear idea of what they are trying to achieve - Real Madrid dont. For Atleti, Antoine Griezmann has scored in each of their last four games and, as a team, they have scored nine goals in their last three outings. They appear to be peaking just at the right time.There is such positivity at Barcelona, at the moment, that they could afford to leave Luis Suarez on the bench against Getafe.Everyone adds to the collective and everyone is playing their best football, again at the right time. The same cannot be said for Real.Guillem answers YOUR questions...Isco to Arsenal. What are the chances? @rohaannairGUILLEM SAYS: Many people will say Isco is a typical Arsenal player. He is an elegant player who fails to fulfil his potential, doesnt score or assist enough and doesnt work hard enough without the ball. For me, he is not a player Arsenal need. That doesnt mean he wont go to the Emirates, the transfer market can serve up anything, I just feel he is a not a player for Arsenal. Real Madrids midfielder Isco (L) celebrates a goal with Cristiano Ronaldo Why is Isco struggling, Guillem? How do you rate him? @ahsannovGUILLEM SAYS: Quite simply, he is not good enough for Real Madrid. He is not consistent so he gets frustrated by being in and out of the team, and that turn affects his consistency. Its a vicious circle if you would like to use that analogy. He hasnt reached the level he should be at. He was perfect for clubs of Malaga, Sevilla or Villarreals stature, but not good enough for Real.When does Aitor Karanka start at Valencia? One unhappy BORO fan! @boromick67 Middlesbroughs promotion charge has faltered in recent weeks GUILLEM SAYS: Karanka is not going to Valencia. The story at Middlesbrough, I believe, is a story of misunderstanding. Everyone at Middlesbrough - the fans, the club, the players and Karanka himself - want him to continue. There will be a meeting this week in which the current situation will be clarified. Thoughts on the Suarez quotes? #AskGuillem @The_Rad_Ad_ Luis Suarez was rested in Barcelonas 6-0 thumping of Getafe GUILLEM SAYS: I assume youre referring to his comments about Liverpool, and that he still keeps an eye on his former clubs results? If that is right, I hope people arent implying that he could go back to Anfield. He was simply expressing his emotions for Liverpool, end of! Suarez back at Liverpool Luis Suarez made a surprise return to Liverpools Melwood training ground while on holiday. Theres talk Zinedine Zidane might not be Real Madrid manager next season, if so whos it likely to be? @MartyStrong88GUILLEM SAYS: Real Madrid want Zidane to been a manager/coach, but only if things go well this season.dddddddddddd. That goes back to my earlier point that they have no idea what they want to do. Zidane is not good enough for this level, he doesnt have the experience. Will he ever be? I dont think so, he is an old-fashioned coach that likes to deal with people rather than tactics. He doesnt belong with the elite. Real are aware that there isnt a clear candidate to replace him and they might allow him stay if he wins the Champions League. Incredible as it may sound, at this stage, that is only a might. Zinedine Zidanes future at Real Madrid could hinge on success in the Champions League Who do you think Real Madrid should buy first in order to improve squad depth? #AskGuillem @Sir_YokoGUILLEM SAYS: A manager! They need a manager that makes them work, perhaps Thomas Tuchel from Borussia Dortmund. I like him a lot! Real Madrid needed a late winner to beat Las Palmas to keep their faint title hopes alive Do you think Sevilla can get top four after their win at Villarreal? @07PavGUILLEM SAYS: Sevilla are the only team in La Liga not to have won an away game this season! Despite that, they have only lost four games on the road, drawing the other nine. If they start to improve their away form then, by all means, they can reach the top four. Unai Emery is burdened far too often by the tactics of the opposition, when playing away from home. Unai Emerys Sevilla moved to within four points of the top four with victory over Villarreal If he let his side play with the offensive aggression they show at home, they would certainly win more games on the road. If they change their dynamic, they could well finish on a high. Villarreal, who currently have their best squad ever, in my opinion, may have peaked early and Sevilla are well placed to take advantage of any bad days they have. It will be a fascinating fight for Champions League qualification. Also See: Real close gap on Atletico Zidane concerned by Real form Sevilla close gap Guillem Balague Wholesale USA Soccer Jerseysdiscount uswnt jerseyWholesale AC Milan JerseysWholesale Arsenal JerseysWholesale A.S. Roma JerseysWholesale Atletico Madrid JerseysWholesale Chelsea JerseysCheap Barcelona JerseysBayern Munich Jerseys For SaleCheap Borussia Dortmund JerseysCheap Inter Milan JerseysJuventus Jerseys From ChinaLeicester City Jerseys For SaleDiscount Liverpool JerseysWholesale Manchester City JerseysManchester United Jerseys For SaleWholesale Paris Saint-Germain JerseysReal Madrid Jerseys From ChinaCheap Sevilla JerseysAuthentic Tottenham Hotspur Jerseys ' ' '